GitLab Acceleration Initiative meeting on 14 December, 2022
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<h2>Transcript</h2>
<h2>This meeting:➤ Is for core developers, initiative contributors, the Drupal Association and anyone interested in the initiative.➤ Usually happens every other Wednesday at 11:00 PT / Thursday 06:00 UTC➤ Is done over chat.➤ Happens in threads, which you can follow to be notified of new replies even if you don’t comment in the thread. You may also join the meeting later and participate asynchronously!➤ Lots of threads get posted all at once! Don't worry - start at the top and then jump into the threads that most interest you.➤ Has a public agenda anyone can add to in the issue➤ *Transcript will be exported and posted* to the agenda issue. For anonymous comments, start with a 👤 emoji. To take a comment or thread off the record, start with a 🚫 emoji.ping: @mixologic @FeyP @jurgenhaas (go to the issue of the next meeting to add or remove yourself from the list)</h2>
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<h2>0️⃣ Who is here today? Comment in the thread below to introduce yourself!</h2>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>Tim from the DA - kicking things off though I expect it to be quiet with D10 celebrations.</td>
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<td>irinaz</td>
<td>Hi, happy D10 day :) (edited)</td>
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<td>larowlan</td>
<td>Hi</td>
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<td>markdorison</td>
<td>Mark from Chromatic :blob_wave: Happy D10 day!</td>
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<td>Nick_vh</td>
<td>Nick from GitLab. Happy d10 day +1 :smile:</td>
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<h2>1️⃣ Do you have any topics to propose for the meeting today? Feel free to propose them in this thread, and then I will give them their own unique threads for discussion. Conversation moving slow? Go ahead and open your own thread in the next numeric order.</h2>
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<h2>2️⃣ Feedback from Template Testing</h2>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>Going to start sub-threads for this, but most of this came courtesy of @phenaproxima and @Brad Jones</td>
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<h2>2️⃣ 1️⃣ It would be ideal to move more of the primary template into another include file, so that we can more easily globally make changes for all users of the template, without them having to reload it.</h2>
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<h2>2️⃣ 2️⃣ Variable override magic is tricky to learn(especially when broken) but important for doing things like the recent use-case: getting modules ready for D10 (edited) </h2>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>One specific problem I ran into is, when running the pipeline, I get shot in the eye with a massive number of variables, many of which say “do not override”. (edited)</td>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>Yeah, and we used the _ character to sort the ones that should be changed to the top</td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>So one immediate suggestion I have: we should hide variables that shouldn’t be overridden. Either entirely, or in a collapsed <details> element.</details></td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>Another thing I’d love to see — in the variables that can be overridden, we currently have descriptions like “Can be any semantic variable from $some_url”. Ideally this would be expanded to actually list the valid options, and what their current values are.</td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>So that I don’t have to guess, or go to another URL and read through pages of YAML.</td>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>@Nick_vh or @saschaeggi - these are UI elements of Gitlab's Run Pipelines ui itself, so this may be upstream feature requests/contributions in future.</td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>I also found a bug, which is that overriding _TARGET_CORE does not, by default, override DRUPAL_CORE_CONSTRAINT, which is actually used by Drupal Spoons to build the code base. You have to know to set DRUPAL_CORE_CONSTRAINT to $_TARGET_CORE. So that should really be fixed such that _TARGET_CORE really is the source of truth.</td>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>(I did update the variables include to do that last point, which hopefully works - it's specifying a full version string rather than a major constraint, but that should still be okay)</td>
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<h2>2️⃣ 3️⃣ We need to properly configure things so that upstream Pipelines run on open MRs - this may need more research into Merge Trains (edited) </h2>
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<h2>2️⃣ 4️⃣ We should research ways to create parameterized CI runs from a link or button - i.e: can we pass in variable overrides and parameters as url parameters? Does that exist in GitlabCI?</h2>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>Maybe @saschaeggi nkows?</td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>This would, I think, be insanely valuable. We cannot expect people to take the time to understand all the variables and their possible override values. We really just need a button (or link) saying things like “Run tests on Drupal 9” or “Run tests on Drupal 10.1.x”</td>
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<td>moshe</td>
<td>Yep, since 3 years ago <a href="https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/merge_requests/18731/diffs">https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/merge_requests/18731/diffs</a></td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>Awesome! So the _fastest_ way to implement something this would probably be to add some links to the default MR template</td>
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<td>irinaz</td>
<td>Which bring back topic of a default MR template 🙂</td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>IMHO it should be quick. Brief description of the problem, checklist of tasks, links to run tests, and a space for release notes if there are breaking changes</td>
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<td>irinaz</td>
<td>@phenaproxima, I believe that you can add MR template to your project only if you want to test how it works. here is an example <a href="https://git.drupalcode.org/project/webeditor/-/tree/1.0.x/.gitlab">https://git.drupalcode.org/project/webeditor/-/tree/1.0.x/.gitlab</a></td>
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<td>irinaz</td>
<td>@hestenet (he/him) I think we could look into adding this also at the project level</td>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>Yah - that'd be a good next step to try</td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>Sure. I’d like to see sensible defaults applied automatically to all projects, with the ability to override. I like the aspirational ideal of “just works”</td>
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<h2>2️⃣ 5️⃣ We need to document the best practices for the 'parallel' keyword, which allows testing a matrix of versions, so that someone can test for compatibility against both 9 and 10 for example. (edited) </h2>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>Raised by @Brad Jones</td>
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<td>moshe</td>
<td>I think this example captures the idea <a href="https://gitlab.com/drupalspoons/devel/-/blob/5.x/.gitlab-ci.yml#L26-32">https://gitlab.com/drupalspoons/devel/-/blob/5.x/.gitlab-ci.yml#L26-32</a></td>
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<td>irinaz</td>
<td>@hestenet (he/him), I suspect you opened this tread to discuss what are limitations for parallel testing - a novice user might try to add too many combinations here. It would be great to have some general guidance</td>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>Yeah, I think the best thing to do is put a well documented example - commented out - in the template - and people can uncomment where needed.</td>
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<h2>2️⃣ 6️⃣ I’d like to see a documented example of “how to add extra steps when building the code base”. For example, enabling Composer plugins, or setting particular configuration options (I had the need to set composer config platform.ext-sodium $PHP_VERSION , for example). Examples would have been incredibly useful. (edited) </h2>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>Another useful example would be, say, “how do I alter PHPUnit configuration before running tests” (edited)</td>
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<h2>3️⃣ We still need to integrate nightwatch testing</h2>
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<h2>4️⃣ We still need better test concurrency/parallelization</h2>
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<h2>5️⃣ @fjgarlin’s credit record work is coming along very nicely - it's still in a private dev environment, so hard to show off, but the parent issue is: [#3322116]The new content type is scaffolded outThe 'processors' or whatever we want to call them for existing d.o issues vs gitlab issues are specced outLooking at GitLab webhook implementations now </h2>
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<td>Nick_vh</td>
<td>Please keep me in the loop here. Any webhook that might be missing is also important for the GitLab roadmap towards getting recognition out through webhooks.</td>
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<td>fjgarlin</td>
<td>Will do. Thanks!</td>
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<h2>6️⃣ Drumm has completed work to move multiple_email handling fully into GitLab</h2>
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<td>drumm</td>
<td>700 lines of code gone so far today</td>
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<td>drumm</td>
<td>3,500 lines of code removed!</td>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>Now that's worth a party.</td>
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<h2>7️⃣ Drumm still has it on deck to prototype the alternative collab workflow. (edited) </h2>
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<h2>8️⃣ @somarand shared a beta video of upcoming GitLab WebIDE changes: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_xzzY9GT9c">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_xzzY9GT9c</a></h2>
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<h2>9️⃣ I’d love to see documentation, with screen shots, on how to look at browser artifacts (such as HTML output). Honestly…even better, tests should automatically both log browser output (I think functional tests already do), with links to see it after a GitLab run, and functional JS tests should always take screenshots of every page they load. Functional JS failures should refer you to a screenshot of the page that failed. (edited) </h2>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>That would be awesome. This gets into one of those areas where I'd love to find someone with more experience than us at Artifact management to maybe point us in the right direction.</td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>I know that our testing framework, given the proper configuration, always logs output. Not sure if that happens by default, or is set up by run-tests.sh (which GitLab is not, AFAIK, using).</td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>And I also know that WebDriver supports screenshots, but I don’t know/think we’re integrating with that.</td>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>Yeah, when we go from 'a place to run the tests' to 'how the tests are run' my knowledge gets fuzzier for sure.</td>
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<td>How much is in the artifact download so far?</td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>I don’t even know how to find the artifacts. It’s not clear in the UI. That’s where some simple (really simple) docs would help</td>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>It's a download icon next to the pipeline or job, kind of on the right sidebar</td>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>But yeah</td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>There’s no way to browse the artifacts online? :pleading_face: (edited)</td>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>Not that I've seen yet. (Again, maybe someone like @saschaeggi knows of something I don't)</td>
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<td>irinaz</td>
<td>@phenaproxima there is a link for download on a jobs page, like here <a href="https://gitlab.com/drupalspoons/devel/-/jobs/3474957926">https://gitlab.com/drupalspoons/devel/-/jobs/3474957926</a></td>
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<td>irinaz</td>
<td>I am not sure if that is what you are looking for, though</td>
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<td>irinaz</td>
<td>I got to this page by clicking on Pipelines, then on pipeline id <a href="https://gitlab.com/drupalspoons/devel/-/pipelines/722647688">https://gitlab.com/drupalspoons/devel/-/pipelines/722647688</a>, then on a job , like "composer" or "phpcs"</td>
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<td>saschaeggi</td>
<td>Maybe @Nick_vh can help somehow :eyes:</td>
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<td>Nick_vh</td>
<td>It's not super clear to me how I could help but there are a lot of knowledgeable community members of Gitlab present in Discord (discord.gg/gitlab). They might be able to shed some light on the possibilities? (edited)</td>
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<td>xurizaemon</td>
<td>I use Gitlab artifacts a lot with site testing, incl screenshots from Behat. Happy to try and answer!Less knowledgeable on getting module tests to output screenshots though.What headless browser are tests using in Drupal CI?</td>
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<td>xurizaemon</td>
<td>@phenaproxima this Gitlab CI config gets screenshots from Behat for a site test suite, and makes them available as artifacts.<a href="https://gitlab.com/xurizaemon/commerce-demo/https://gitlab.com/xurizaemon/commerce-demo/-/blob/main/.gitlab-ci.yml#L89-98https://gitlab.com/xurizaemon/commerce-demo/-/jobs/3480814390/artifacts/browse/screenshots/IDK">https://gitlab.com/xurizaemon/commerce-demo/https://gitlab.com/xurizaemon/commerce-demo/-/blob/main/.gitlab-ci.yml#L89-98https://gitlab.com/xurizaemon/commerce-demo/-/jobs/3480814390/artifacts/browse/screenshots/IDK</a> if that will add anything for you. Screenshots (artifacts) are available from the right sidebar of a job. I think I recall you can make artifacts show up on MRs also.(yes that linked project is neglected) (edited)</td>
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<td>xurizaemon</td>
<td>@phenaproxima @hestenet (he/him) if I can help somehow, ping me</td>
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<h2>🔟 Another thing. Does GitLab CI offer build status badges, like Travis CI did/does? That would be real handy for d.o project pages, especially ones (like Simple OAuth) that must test on GitLab CI due to platform requirements.</h2>
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<td>moshe</td>
<td>yes, it does. the urls are in a project's admin page (which only the DA has access to).</td>
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<td>moshe</td>
<td>The urls follow a pattern so its not important to give devs admin access</td>
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<td>drumm</td>
<td>@phenaproxima is that actually answering what you were asking? Moshe is saying how to add badges to GitLab from 3rd parties. But I think you are asking how to add a GitLab CI badge to Drupal.org project pages. Which we would like for parity with the testing results.</td>
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<td>drumm</td>
<td>I haven’t done any research on if that might be available out of the box. We can use GitLab’s API to get results, I think the tricky thing will be figuring out which results to pick, since GitLab CI jobs could be anything.</td>
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<h2>Can I also say, it’s really awesome to finally have access to a modern build pipeline. So despite the rough spots, this is still great work and I’m really appreciative of all that has been done. (edited) </h2>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>Thanks for saying so! It's a good day to remember that we should celebrate 🙂</td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>We’re developers. It’s always easier to complain</td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>But from all the complaining, we also somehow manage to cobble good work together. Go team!</td>
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<td>drumm</td>
<td>I’m glad to see all the details being figured out in the meeting threads today</td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>@drumm Yeah, I really appreciate the opportunity to try it out, and I also have to give a MASSIVE thanks to @hestenet (he/him) for being such a huge help. I would have wasted weeks without him.</td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>And really, most of my comments are just about making the process smoother and clearer.</td>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>Yeah - it's exactly the feedback we need and want right now</td>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>It's concrete, and very helpful.</td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>:+1:</td>
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<h2>One point of appreciation: I LOVE the variable-check job. Whoever thought of that, you’re brilliant.</h2>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>We should very definitely mention it in documentation and explain what it’s for. Very helpful for debugging.</td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>I would maybe rename it, though, to echo-variables or confirm-variables</td>
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<td>phenaproxima</td>
<td>Just so it’s clearer, at a glance, what it actually does.</td>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
<td>Sure - can do.</td>
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<td>hestenet (he/him)</td>
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<p>Participants:</p>
<p>hestenet, irinaz, larowlan, markdorison, Nick_vh, phenaproxima, moshe, fjgarlin, drumm, saschaeggi, xurizaemon</p>
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