Drupal AI Contribution meetup 2025.2 (#3502459) · Issues · project / ai

Drupal AI Contribution meetup 2025.2

>>> [!note] Migrated issue   Reported by: [valthebald](https://www.drupal.org/user/239562) >>> Drupal AI Contribution meetup from 30 Jan, 2025 at 13:00 UTC to 31 Jan 2025 13:00 UTC (Check your local time at <a href="https://www.timebie.com/std/universal.php">https://www.timebie.com/std/universal.php</a>) <h2>Attendees</h2> (in the order of appearance in the chat) <h2>Agenda</h2> <a href="https://www.drupal.org/community/events/drupal-ai-contribution-meetup-20252-2025-01-30">https://www.drupal.org/community/events/drupal-ai-contribution-meetup-20252-2025-01-30</a> <h2>Transcript</h2> <ul> <li> Hello everyone, and welcome to the Drupal AI contribution meeting!This meeting:➤ Happens weekly in #drupal-cms-ai channel➤ Is text only!➤ Happens in threads, which you can follow to be notified of new replies even if you don’t comment in the thread. You may also join the meeting later and participate asynchronously.➤ Refers to various issues and plans tracking in d.o project:<a href="https://www.drupal.org/project/ai/issues/3502459" title="Status: Closed (fixed)">#3502459: Drupal AI Contribution meetup 2025.2</a>. Please comment there so we can grant you credit for attending/contributing! Please note, we will only give attributions for active engagement. (edited)   </li> <li> 0️⃣ Roll call! Who's here? Have you already learned the word of the week "DeepSeek"? :wink:   <ul> <li> valthebald: Val from Sofia, Bulgaria, and I'm close to add "DeepSeek" to my blacklist 🙂 </li> <li> Marcus Johansson: Marcus from Berlin, Bulgaria - I have tested Deepseek and its good. I will run it on my local rig tomorrow and see what results you can get with "only" 24GB VRAM. 🙂 (edited) </li> <li> Vivek Panicker: Vivek here from Kolkata, India.Not yet tried out DeepSeek.Have RTX 3060 graphics card with 8 or 12GB VRAM. Hope it works out on that. </li> <li> Jasper Lammens: Jasper from Nijlen, Belgium.What’s DeepSeek? :wink: </li> <li> bircher: Fabian :wave: yes I ran deepseek via ollama and had fun with it listing 46 of the 27 EU member states :smile: </li> <li> Jasper Lammens: Did somebody already asked how much rocks you need to eat per day, in order to stay healthy? :trollface: </li> <li> Nick Opris: I'm in and out, I have DeepSeek 32b running in ollama on M4/48GB RAM but only using it for basic things, not really grilling it. </li> </ul>   </li> <li> 1️⃣ Organizational questions </li> <li> 2️⃣ Follow-up from the previous week </li> <li> 2️⃣ 1️⃣ More granular targeting of features to add   <ul> <li> valthebald: @Marcus Johansson @yautja_cetanu (Jamie) is it possible to create 1.1.x or/and 2.0.x branches, so that we can target them in issue queue? </li> <li> Marcus Johansson: Yup, 1.1.x is already planned, but we can add a 2.0.x as well already. We had a discussion about what kind of features/bugs can go into 1.1.x vs 1.0.x, could be interesting to raise here as well.Basically we said that features that are just internal, like adding plugins in a submodule to an interface we control can go into batch releases, same with adding none-conflicting configuration keys, but never changing or editing.But its up for discussion of course. </li> <li> valthebald: having several versions also would impact how bugs are handled </li> <li> valthebald: i.e. all the issues are opened against the "next" version, and then backported to 1.0.x when relevant? </li> </ul>   </li> <li> 2️⃣ 2️⃣ Collaboration with ECA/ai_eca   <ul> <li> valthebald: There was a good discussion last week about possible collaboration. Are there any news on that? </li> <li> Vivek Panicker: I see ai_eca submodule already exists. What is this about? </li> <li> Jasper Lammens: That was part of the initial effort to expose operation types (chat, text-to-speech etc.) as Actions. So they can be used in ECA models. </li> <li> Jasper Lammens: Afterwards, I created a separate contrib module with the same name: <a href="https://www.drupal.org/project/ai_eca">https://www.drupal.org/project/ai_eca</a> </li> <li> Jasper Lammens: Just to make sure that the main AI module doesn’t need a dependency on ECA, as that has its own roadmap at another speed of implementation. </li> <li> Jasper Lammens: (Does that last sentence make sense?) </li> <li> Jasper Lammens: It contains the same amount of Actions, but also the AI Agent that is capable of interacting with those ECA models. </li> <li> Jasper Lammens: In regards to the future of this: the agent can be tested and probably some issues are going to come out of it.I don’t know who defines the next steps of CMS, or even if it should be in there. </li> <li> valthebald: That's a great question. Are there already some goals for CMS 1.1? </li> <li> Marcus Johansson: The ones I know is try to get error handling in chatbot and setup, steady improvements of the assistant/agents, planning agent. But @yautja_cetanu (Jamie) would know more. </li> </ul>   </li> <li> 2️⃣ 3️⃣ Is ai_search out of experimental status?   <ul> <li> Marcus Johansson: Not yet, its being worked on, @Scott Euser has done a lot there and @Seogow is trying to push it over the finishing line. Last status here:<a href="https://git.drupalcode.org/project/ai_search/-/work_items/3485449" class="drupalorg-gitlab-link">https://git.drupalcode.org/project/ai_search/-/work_items/3485449</a>#comment-15951375 </li> </ul>   </li> <li> 2️⃣ 4️⃣ Unifying translation approach   <ul> <li> valthebald: I made some changes to MR for[#3478721] and now in some confusion </li> <li> valthebald: how can we push this forward? Is the error experienced by @Scott Euser is gone? Should this issue be separated into smaller ones? </li> <li> valthebald: I get the question about empty options in "Translate text" dropdown literally from everyone who tries the module for the first time (edited) </li> <li> Marcus Johansson: I have a "free" day tomorrow and will try to look through it, if Scott doesn't have time. The idea itself is great I think. </li> <li> Marcus Johansson: @valthebald I've rechecked it and had some notes of things that should be fixed - one of Scott's points I think can be closed as well. I think the actual solution is great, but it still needs some work and the question is where we put this - if you don't have capacity let me know. </li> <li> valthebald: @Marcus Johansson thanks for the remarks </li> <li> valthebald: I'll recheck the issue on the weekend, and let you know what's the status </li> </ul>   </li> <li> 2️⃣ 5️⃣ Drupal AI website (edited)    <ul> <li> valthebald: I understand @yautja_cetanu (Jamie) plans to use Drupal forge for that. What help is needed here? Design/theme? Are we going to use a free or paid plan? </li> <li> valthebald: also, with the number of people in this channel growing, do we need some kanban-ish board? </li> <li> yautja_cetanu (Jamie): We are exploring how we can get API keys out to the users automatically and behind the scenes have some AI. So this is the main issue </li> <li> yautja_cetanu (Jamie): <a href="https://openrouter.com/lander">https://openrouter.com/lander</a> this looked interesting.@Andrew Belcher thinks he can make a drupal site that does this. I'm trying to find some kind of framework </li> <li> yautja_cetanu (Jamie): <a href="https://github.com/1LCB/ollama-gateway">https://github.com/1LCB/ollama-gateway</a> - This was something maybe we could use </li> <li> yautja_cetanu (Jamie): I'd also like to make a website thatr keeps track of all the companies involved </li> <li> yautja_cetanu (Jamie): and tells people about it </li> </ul>   </li> <li> 2️⃣ 6️⃣ More flexible operation types   <ul> <li> valthebald: There is a MR from @bircher and @Jan Kellermann[#3500120] to make things more flexible. (edited) </li> <li> valthebald: what are the blockers here? </li> <li> thejimbirch: Not I.  @bircher is the birch you are looking for. </li> <li> valthebald: oh sorry </li> <li> thejimbirch: No worries at all. </li> <li> valthebald: fixed the mention </li> <li> bircher: thanks :smile: </li> <li> bircher: I just pushed a fix for phpcs complaining so it should be green and ready for review </li> <li> Marcus Johansson: @Jan Kellermann and @bircher has done a great job here and I think opening it up makes sense, based on Jan's feedback with a very specific operation type. </li> <li> bircher: <a href="https://www.drupal.org/project/ai/issues/3503351">https://www.drupal.org/project/ai/issues/3503351</a> would be the follow up to use the interfaces </li> </ul>   </li> <li> 3️⃣ New areas of improvement  </li> <li> 3️⃣ 1️⃣ Listed last week: (edited)    <ul> <li> valthebald: Improve the errors the assistant gives for common errors </li> <li> valthebald: Add chat history to deepchat </li> <li> valthebald: Tweaks of alt text generator </li> <li> valthebald: Planning assistant </li> <li> valthebald: I think all of those deserve separate issues in the issue queue? </li> <li> Marcus Johansson: Regarding the improving errors, @Mark Jones has done a great job on that, I have reviewed it and its ready to be merged.Issue here:<a href="https://www.drupal.org/project/ai/issues/3499597" title="Status: Closed (fixed)">#3499597: Better error handling in the AI Chatbot</a> </li> </ul>   </li> <li> 3️⃣ 2️⃣ Maintainers, what other areas would you like us to help with?   <ul> <li> Marcus Johansson: Issues that has possibility to discuss how to solve them[#3494281] </li> </ul>   </li> </ul> Participants: valthebald, Marcus Johansson, Vivek Panicker, Jasper Lammens, bircher, Nick Opris, yautja_cetanu (Jamie), thejimbirch

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